When the enemies of God want to accomplish a task, their only means of doing so effectively is by using God's friendly forces. Enemies of God have no power to influence the ether of heaven, unless they invade heaven. They cannot invade heaven, unless they take over the mind, the heart, and/or the soul of one or more of God's millennial forces.
If you are not a betrayer of God, and you would never aspire to become a betrayer of God, then you should not be working with the forces of hell. If you have to betray heaven in order to work with the forces of hell, then you should not be speaking with demons. The Lord God Almighty is a God of truth.
The Lord God Almighty El Shaddai